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RE: [N8VEM-S100:349] Re: CF card images
Oops! Sorry, thought you were talking about the new Dual IDE board
From: n8vem...@googlegroups.com [mailto:n8vem...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Elsid
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 1:15 PM
Subject: [N8VEM-S100:349] Re: CF card images
There is no problem copying CF card to CF card within CPM3.
I don't actually have a dual IDE S-100 board built yet.
We were talking about making an image of a CF card containing CPM3 in MS
Windows or DOS or LINUX, and making that image available for others to use.
On Jul 15, 2:04 am, "John Monahan" <mon...@vitasoft.org> wrote:
> Leon, on the CF card copying what was the problem? If you format a CF
> card in drive #2 you must reset the "disk" with a ^C before doing a
> disk A->B copy. Then ^C again before reading the (new) Disk for the
> first time. For some reason CPM and/or the disk gets out of sync with
> These cards are real sensitive about getting a reset pulse before
> first being accessed. This is always sent with a CPM ^C -- to both
> disks, as each is accessed for the first time. The symptoms of a
> "reset problem" are the very first sector is crapped up -- and always
> only that one! After you do a disk A->B copy, do a verify (at least for
the first track or two).
> If the problem persists please let me know. BTW, you can always
> correct the above by doing a HSYSGEN on the CF card. In CPM, go to
> drive #2 (your freshly copied disk) and type HSYSGEN. Follow the
> instructions. Remember HSYSGEN always "does" the currently selected drive.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: n8vem...@googlegroups.com [mailto:n8vem...@googlegroups.com]
> Behalf Of Elsid
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 6:49 AM
> To: N8VEM-S100
> Subject: [N8VEM-S100:347] Re: CF card images
> Hi Phil,
> Congratulations on getting the Sol-20. Was it from EBay the other day?
> Very Nice!
> I have been looking at some freeware backup programs that do sector by
> sector backup to an image file.
> Easeus Todo Free Version looked like it might do the trick. But I
> tried doing a sector backup of an N8VEM-S100 compact flash and restore
> from the backup file and found the CF didn't boot.
> There may be a way to do this by using the linux utility "dd".
> There is a windows version here:http://www.chrysocome.net/ddyou should
> be able to make a raw image of a CF on a USB cardreader
> "dd if=\\?\Device\Harddisk1\Partition0 of=c:\temp\usb2.img bs=1M --
> size --progress"
> I have to check if this actually works. - I tried it. It seems to work
> but then the imaged CF doesn't boot.
> I think the problem is the usb card reader so I'll try the CF on an
> IDE/CF addapter next.
> I also tried with wxHexEditor but haven't got very far yet.
> If I image a CF with CPM3 on it that you can restore to your CF you
> sill won't have the correct CBIOS for the SOL-20.You will have to
> modify John's CBIOS or, if you can get hold of a SOL-20 CBIOS source,
> add in Johns IDE stuff to it.
> You can do all that in the Altair Z80 simulator but you can only write
> to a floppy disk image (.imd).
> If you email me the floppy image I can load it onto a floppy with IMD,
> copy it to a CF in my S-100 system, then image it up to a file (with
> some program yet to be tested) and email you back the CF image file.
> If anyone can think of a better way to do this please let me know.
> It would be wonderfull if we had a simulated IDE drive in the Altair
> simulator or were able to write directly to the compact flash from the
> simulator. Maybe someone knows how to do this?
> Best regards
> On Jul 14, 2:11 am, Nama <forum...@mac.com> wrote:
> > Oops. That was supposed to say 's100computers.com', It seems I lost
> > the 's100' part in the original post. Sorry about that.
> > On Jul 13, 8:00 pm, Nama <forum...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > I'm new to this forum and to the world of S100 and CP/M. However I
> > > have just acquired a SOL-20 with the idea that I want to learn more.
> > > As my SOL-20 did not come with and disk drives so I have just
> > > ordered one of the John and Andrew's dual IDE boards with the
> > > thought of building it up and running CP/M from a CF card. I have
> > > confidence that I can build the hardware, but getting CP/M onto a
> > > CF card looks to be very challenging, more so considering I
> > > presently have zero knowledge of CP/M or S100 machines!!!!
> > > There is a thread on computers.com's forum under the software
> > > section where someone is asking if it would be possible to back up
> > > a CF card containing a generic CPM3 install using some backup
> > > software such as Dave Dunfields ImageDisk. That backup file could
> > > then be placed on the internet so that others (and myself) could
> > > download it reinstall it on on of their CF cards. This could be an
> > > easy way to bootstap a system if people don't have access to a
> > > running CP/M system
> > > I was wondering if someone here would be willing to do this for
> > > the community. John says he can then post the file, but if not, I
> > > can put it on my server for all to download.
> > > Much thanks in advance
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